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DBZ vs. an Atomic Bomb
Topic Started: Jan 26 2014, 01:32 AM (5,597 Views)
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Atomic Bombs, radiation, and everything else that comes with an atomic bomb.

What all could any character of DBZ do to handle one of these if he can?
What Super Saiyan forms or transformations should be able to handle this?
Would radiation kill any of them? Could any survive it?
Edited by Professor Gohan, Jan 26 2014, 01:36 AM.
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King Kakarot
Feb 10 2014, 08:56 PM
goku as a child had body as strong as stainless steel that was before any real training as well as DRINKING POISON which people seem to just ignore


and yes in BOG it shows that videl a person with ki training still can't tank bullets without getting hurt unlike saiyans who can tank it in thier sleep

human =/= saiyans

and saying anything a human can catch a saiyan can catch as well is just about the dumbest thing ive ever heard.


Again proving that saiyans can breed with humans prove nothing.

Kryptonians can do the exact same thing and they have almost nothing in common except that theyblook alike

So i guess they can catch anything a human can catch since they can breed with humans?


A saiyan with a powerlevel of 5 is still stronger than any human on this planet

Show me any human able to function properly in 10x gravity without their internal organs starting to give up on them that alone proves that saiyans have a stronger internal durability then any human could ever hope to have

Also show me a child being able to fall off a cliff and sustain no severe head trauma like goku did go ahead show me that child would probably be on life support of he ever fell off a cliff right onto his head goku only suffered from amnesia

saiyans tank a nuke no problem whatsoever
1. kryptonians are completely irrelevant here. different series, different rules. saiyans are explicitly called out as being human, and can breed with humans. therefore, they are biologically identical to humans except where specified otherwise.

2. goku as a child had already been trained by grandpa gohan. when we first see goku, he is already a martial arts master, from the perspective of a normal human.

3. goku didn't drink an ordinary poison. he drank a potion that explicitly checked to see if you were strong enough, and if you were, it unlocked your dormant ability. goku just had a higher power level than anyone else who ever drank it.

4. that just proves that videl is still weaker than BoDB krillin and roshi, since they were not injured by bullets.

5. we never see a saiyan with an equivalent power level to a normal human, so you can't just say that they would be tougher than a human with the same power level. human + bonus power = saiyan. it really is that simple.

6. the only person in the entire series to ever get sick is goku. nothing ever states that saiyans have any special resistance to disease, therefore they do not, because it is already proven they are biologically nearly identical to humans.

7. since the weakest saiyan we ever see has a power level of 10, and humans with similar power levels show similar feats, no, a saiyan with a power level of 5 would not be stronger than a human with a power level of 5.

8. goku did suffer severe head trauma. that's why he's an amnesiac and an idiot. he suffered brain damage from the fall. but i'll go you one better than a fall off a cliff. there was a girl around here recently who had a skydiving accident. her parachute didn't open, and she fell 3500 feet. not only did she survive, but she is expected to make a full recovery. real people can have the kind of fall goku had and survive with less permanent damage. goku surviving that fall wasn't anything special. it's uncommon, but not impossible.
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I would saiyans are just as susceptible to radiation as humans are. Ki barriers should help too though
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King Kakarot
Feb 10 2014, 08:56 PM
goku as a child had body as strong as stainless steel that was before any real training as well as DRINKING POISON which people seem to just ignore


and yes in BOG it shows that videl a person with ki training still can't tank bullets without getting hurt unlike saiyans who can tank it in thier sleep

human =/= saiyans

and saying anything a human can catch a saiyan can catch as well is just about the dumbest thing ive ever heard.


Again proving that saiyans can breed with humans prove nothing.

Kryptonians can do the exact same thing and they have almost nothing in common except that theyblook alike

So i guess they can catch anything a human can catch since they can breed with humans?


A saiyan with a powerlevel of 5 is still stronger than any human on this planet

Show me any human able to function properly in 10x gravity without their internal organs starting to give up on them that alone proves that saiyans have a stronger internal durability then any human could ever hope to have

Also show me a child being able to fall off a cliff and sustain no severe head trauma like goku did go ahead show me that child would probably be on life support of he ever fell off a cliff right onto his head goku only suffered from amnesia

saiyans tank a nuke no problem whatsoever
Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien were on King Kai's planet, and could survive the gravity! I'm pretty sure any human at their level can in-universe! So their internal durability is just as high!
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Saiyan without ki>human without ki

Saiyan with ki=human with ki. The saiyan may have a small advantage if any
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Feb 16 2014, 06:56 PM
Saiyan without ki>human without ki

Saiyan with ki=human with ki. The saiyan may have a small advantage if any
i'll agree that a saiyan raised on planet vegeta would be stronger than an earthling raised on earth even without ki. i don't believe a saiyan raised on earth would be stronger than a human raised on earth without ki. except for the obvious fact that saiyans have an extra limb to assist whatever they are doing, of course.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Feb 16 2014, 05:29 PM
King Kakarot
Feb 10 2014, 08:56 PM
goku as a child had body as strong as stainless steel that was before any real training as well as DRINKING POISON which people seem to just ignore


and yes in BOG it shows that videl a person with ki training still can't tank bullets without getting hurt unlike saiyans who can tank it in thier sleep

human =/= saiyans

and saying anything a human can catch a saiyan can catch as well is just about the dumbest thing ive ever heard.


Again proving that saiyans can breed with humans prove nothing.

Kryptonians can do the exact same thing and they have almost nothing in common except that theyblook alike

So i guess they can catch anything a human can catch since they can breed with humans?


A saiyan with a powerlevel of 5 is still stronger than any human on this planet

Show me any human able to function properly in 10x gravity without their internal organs starting to give up on them that alone proves that saiyans have a stronger internal durability then any human could ever hope to have

Also show me a child being able to fall off a cliff and sustain no severe head trauma like goku did go ahead show me that child would probably be on life support of he ever fell off a cliff right onto his head goku only suffered from amnesia

saiyans tank a nuke no problem whatsoever
Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien were on King Kai's planet, and could survive the gravity! I'm pretty sure any human at their level can in-universe! So their internal durability is just as high!
Prior gravity training, they were training with weighting clothing from training with Popo. I assure you that normal humans, without some training from Kami or Popo would be crushed.
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Well ok normal humans true, but in Dragon Ball do you think normal humans ncan get to a level where Kami finds them valuable to train??
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Saiyan without ki>human without ki

Saiyan with ki=human with ki. The saiyan may have a small advantage if any
i'll agree that a saiyan raised on planet vegeta would be stronger than an earthling raised on earth even without ki. i don't believe a saiyan raised on earth would be stronger than a human raised on earth without ki. except for the obvious fact that saiyans have an extra limb to assist whatever they are doing, of course.
11 year old humans can't lift and throw cars and be shot point blank in the face like 11 year old goku did
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Feb 16 2014, 06:56 PM
Saiyan without ki>human without ki

Saiyan with ki=human with ki. The saiyan may have a small advantage if any
i'll agree that a saiyan raised on planet vegeta would be stronger than an earthling raised on earth even without ki. i don't believe a saiyan raised on earth would be stronger than a human raised on earth without ki. except for the obvious fact that saiyans have an extra limb to assist whatever they are doing, of course.
11 year old humans can't lift and throw cars and be shot point blank in the face like 11 year old goku did
11 year old goku was already a master martial artist with basic ki training. he was already able to sense ki, and he understood the principles behind the kamehameha well enough to duplicate it after seeing it once. that means he already knew how to access his ki, he just didn't know any techniques to take advantage of it.

quit trying to compare goku to a normal human. at no point in the series was goku ever normal. he was one of the best from chapter 1.
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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Lunar you guys are the one saying Saiyan equals humans with ki, so technically he didn't start the comparison, you guys did.
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yes, saiyans equal humans, but with more ki. goku, at chapter one, already had at least twice the ki of an ordinary human. he also had extensive martial arts training that pushed his physical abilities to the limit of what could be considered human. you can't compare that to an ordinary, untrained human.

you know what you can compare it too, though? a human that has had similar training. you know, like krillin. krillin had a similar background to goku, and showed similar feats. that shows that a saiyan and a human with similar power levels will have similar abilities. it doesn't matter if that power level is 5 or 5,000.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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